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On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 1:36 PM, LEIN TRINH <lientcnguyen@...> wrote:

we can sin but the Church can't the Spiritrual Churnch

( the 

body of Christ can't sin )

but the catholic or any others church will fall in sin,

Paul conmended us to Cut off those that commit sins

or remain life style in sinful as Catholic Priests who molesters childrens,

Jesus also Said:

if your hand do sin cut it off,

if your eye sin pull it out so that way you can go heaven rather have two hand go hell,

yes we all sinners but before God accepted us we must be clean by the blood of Jesus,

so that we can be Body of Christ santifice and Holy,

sin just like cancer in our body,

when we have it we must cutt it off from our body or it will destroy us!

the Body of Christ the Church can't be sin??

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Pat

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We also see when all is said and done on Judgment day (Matt 25), those who will be saved are ONLY those who can answer yes to the series of questions.  

 Did you feed me when I was hungry, clothe me when I was naked, visit me in prison, or when I was sick, invite me in when I was a stranger...etc, 

These questions were not a matter of simple belief, but of works.

Heb.6: 10 “For God is not so unjust as to overlook your work and the love which you showed for his sake in serving the saints, as you still do.”

Rev.2: 23 “and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches shall know that I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you as your works deserve.”

1 Peter 1: 17 “Now if you invoke as Father him who judges impartially according to each one's works, conduct yourselves with reverence during the time of your sojourning, “

And let us NOT forget the Forgiveness of SINS which CAN

 [and will

 ONLY happen in the manner Jesus Himself gives to all of humanity 

as an OFFER through the Sacrament of Confession.  

ANYONE who dies with Unconfessed; Unforgiven Mortal sins; DOOMS themselves to Hell for all eternity.

1John.1 Verses 8 to 10 "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

1John.5 Verses 16 to 17 "If any one sees his brother committing what is not a mortal sin, he will ask, and God will give him life for those whose sin is not mortal. There is sin which is mortal; I do not say that one is to pray for that. All wrongdoing is sin,  but there is sin which is not mortal.

John.20 Verses 20 to 23" When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord. Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you.

 As the Father has sent me, even so I send you." And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them,  

"Receive the Holy Spirit.

 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained" … 

These are Christ Own Words; God’s own command. 

Are so proud as to choose to ignore or deny them? …

 To deny this teaching of Jesus Himself IS denial of God!

Each and EVERY ONE of the COMMANDS MUST BE Fulfilled and maintained in our lives IF we are to attain our own salvation. 

 Why God Commands this is a Mystery; the FACT that he does is Biblical!

RECAP of SALVATION MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS

It always and every time begins by God initiative of offering GRACE; the First key element

Rom.3: 24 “they are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus, “

If the Grace is accepted and correctly applied this leads to Faith; the next key element”

Rom.5:1-2 “Therefore, since we are justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have obtained access to this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in our hope of sharing the glory of God.”

Rom.1: 17 “For in it the righteousness of God is revealed through faith for faith; as it is written, "He who through faith is righteous shall live."

Next are a SERIES of Full and Complete Obedience ISSUES:

The Commandments: Mt.17:19  And Know my friends that the 10 are categories of sin: not the entire list.

To the CC and the Pope and Magesterium: Mt. 16:18-19; Mt. 28:19-20; Acts 20:28

2 John 8-9 Anyone who is so “progressive” as not to remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God; whoever remains in the teaching has the Father and the Son

John 5: 37 “;  and you do not have his word abiding in you, for you do not believe him whom he has sent. You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness to me;  yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life [Speaking of accepting the entire WORD of GOD]. I do not receive glory from men. [Meaning disobedience is rampant!] But I know that you have not the love of God within you.  I have come in my Father's name, and you do not receive me” [Obey Me!]

Eph.1 :13 to 14  “In him you also, who have heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and have believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, which is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.”

Then there is the issue of Good Works and Charity:

We also see when all is said and done on Judgment day (Matt 25), 

 those who will be saved are ONLY those who can answer yes to the series of questions 

. [NO; NOT ONLY BUT ONE OF THE CRITICAL COMPONENTS..PJM] 

 Did you feed me when I was hungry, clothe me when I was naked, visit me in prison, or when I was sick, invite me in when I was a stranger...etc, These questions were not a matter of simple belief, but of works. .

., Heb.6: 10 “For God is not so unjust as to overlook your work and the love which you showed for his sake in serving the saints, as you still do.” 

 Rev.2: 23 “and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches shall know that I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you as your works deserve.” …1 Peter 1: 17 “Now if you invoke as Father him who judges impartially according to each one's works, conduct yourselves with reverence during the time of your sojourning, “

And let us NOT forget the Forgiveness of SINS which CAN ONLY happen in the manner Jesus Himself gives to all of humanity as an OFFER through the Sacrament of Confession. 

ANYONE who dies with Unconfessed; Unforgiven Mortal sins; DOOMS themselves to Hell for all eternity.

As

1John.5 Verses 16 to 17 "If any one sees his brother committing what is not a mortal sin, he will ask, and God will give him life for those whose sin is not mortal.

 There is sin which is mortal;

 I do not say that one is to pray for that. All wrongdoing is sin,  but there is sin which is not mortal 

…John.20 Verses 20 to 23" When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord. Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you.

 As the Father has sent me, even so I send you." And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them,

 "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained" 

 These are the Words Of Jesus Christ, in Whom all Salvation rest. Do you listen to God or your preacher?

Each and EVERY ONE of the COMMANDS MUST BE Fulfilled 

and maintained in our lives

IF we are to attain our own salvation.

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ON THE MOST HOLY SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST

CANON I.-If any one denieth, that, in the sacrament of the most holy Eucharist, are contained truly, really, and substantially, the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ; but saith that He is only therein as in a sign, or in figure, or virtue; let him be anathema.

CANON lI.-If any one saith, that, in the sacred and holy sacrament of the Eucharist, the substance of the bread and wine remains conjointly with the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, and denieth that wonderful and singular conversion of the whole substance of the bread into the Body, and of the whole substance of the wine into the Blood-the species Only of the bread and wine remaining-which conversion indeed the Catholic Church most aptly calls Transubstantiation; let him be anathema.

CANON III.-If any one denieth, that, in the venerable sacrament of the Eucharist, the whole Christ is contained under each species, and under every part of each species, when separated; let him be anathema.

CANON IV.-If any one saith, that, after the consecration is completed, the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ are not in the admirable sacrament of the Eucharist, but (are there) only during the use, whilst it is being taken, and not either before or after; and that, in the hosts, or consecrated particles, which are reserved or which remain after communion, the true Body of the Lord remaineth not; let him be anathema.

CANON V.-If any one saith, either that the principal fruit of the most holy Eucharist is the remission of sins, or, that other effects do not result therefrom; let him be anathema.

CANON VI.-If any one saith, that, in the holy sacrament of the Eucharist, Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, is not to be adored with the worship, even external of latria; and is, consequently, neither to be venerated with a special festive solemnity, nor to be solemnly borne about in processions, according to the laudable and universal rite and custom of holy church; or, is not to be proposed publicly to the people to be adored, and that the adorers thereof are idolators; let him be anathema.

CANON VII.-If any one saith, that it is not lawful for the sacred Eucharist to be reserved in the sacrarium, but that, immediately after consecration, it must necessarily be distributed amongst those present; or, that it is not lawful that it be carried with honour to the sick; let him be anathema.

CANON VIII.-lf any one saith, that Christ, given in the Eucharist, is eaten spiritually only, and not also sacramentally and really; let him be anathema.

CANON IX.-If any one denieth, that all and each of Christ's faithful of both sexes are bound, when they have attained to years of discretion, to communicate every year, at least at Easter, in accordance with the precept of holy Mother Church; let him be anathema.

CANON X.-If any one saith, that it is not lawful for the celebrating priest to communicate himself; let him be anathema.

 
CANON XI.-lf any one saith, that faith alone is a sufficient preparation for receiving the sacrament of the most holy Eucharist; let him be anathema. And for fear lest so great a sacrament may be received unworthily, and so unto death and condemnation, this holy Synod ordains and declares, that sacramental confession, when a confessor may be had, is of necessity to be made beforehand, by those whose conscience is burthened with mortal sin, how contrite even soever they may think themselves. But if any one shall presume to teach, preach, or obstinately to assert, or even in public disputation to defend the contrary, he shall be thereupon excommunicated.


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The moral teaching here is critical to ones salvation. How did these disciples come to recognize Christ as God? Luke 24:28-31 “So they drew near to the village to which they were going. He appeared to be going further, but they constrained him, saying, "Stay with us, for it is toward evening and the day is now far spent." So he went in to stay with them.
When he was at table with them, he took the bread and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to them. And their eyes were opened and they recognized him; and he vanished out of their sight.” [BFS] “With the conferring of the bread came knowledge with greater clarity than ALL OTHER INSTRUCTIONS. The Breaking of the Bread had introduced them into an experience of the Glorified Christ.”

 My dear friends, the Resurrection of Christ is the “corner stone” of all Christian belief. But it’s not quite as clear as this statement may imply? One CAN most assuredly know that they DO KNOW rightly or fully Christ and are in reality fully, following Him ONLY if and when, like the disciples on the Road to Emma'us; they too recognize Christ as God “in the breaking of the bread.” We to must do the identically same thing. IF one is unable to “see” in Faith and believe what Christ who is God claims is true; that HE IS the REAL Presence [John 6: 53-56] “So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. “

This is NOT an optional belief. Just as the “breaking of the bread” led to the eventual salvation of the Emmaus disciples; [and too the Apostles ..John 21:12-14],

Patrick j miron and the catholics who can't Learn--but saith that He is only therein as in a sign, or in figure, or virtue; let him be anathema.

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The moral teaching here is critical to ones salvation. 

How did these disciples come to recognize Christ as God?  

Luke 24:28-31 “So they drew near to the village to which they were going.

 He appeared to be going further, but they constrained him, saying, "Stay with us, for it is toward evening and the day is now far spent." So he went in to stay with them.
 

When he was at table with them, he took the bread and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to them. And their eyes were opened and they recognized him; and he vanished out of their sight.”

 [BFS] “With the conferring of the bread came knowledge with greater clarity than ALL OTHER INSTRUCTIONS. The Breaking of the Bread had introduced them into an experience of the Glorified Christ.”

 My dear friends, the Resurrection of Christ is the “corner stone” of all Christian belief. 

But it’s not quite as clear as this statement may imply? 

One CAN most assuredly know that they DO KNOW rightly or fully Christ and are in reality fully, following Him ONLY if and when, 

like the disciples on the Road to Emma'us; 

they too recognize Christ as God

 “in the breaking of the bread.” 

 Jesus is the wafer of bread

 We to must do the identically same thing.

 IF one is unable to “see” in Faith and believe what Christ who is God claims is true;

 that HE IS the REAL Presence in the wafer of bread

 [John 6: 53-56] “So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. “

This is NOT an optional belief. Just as the “breaking of the bread” led to the eventual salvation of the Emmaus disciples; [and too the Apostles ..John 21:12-14],

The Thirteenth Session

ON THE MOST HOLY SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST

CANON I.-If any one denieth, that, in the sacrament of the most holy Eucharist, are contained truly, really, and substantially, the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ; but saith that He is only therein as in a sign, or in figure, or virtue; let him be anathema.

CANON lI.-If any one saith, that, in the sacred and holy sacrament of the Eucharist, the substance of the bread and wine remains conjointly with the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, and denieth that wonderful and singular conversion of the whole substance of the bread into the Body, and of the whole substance of the wine into the Blood-the species Only of the bread and wine remaining-which conversion indeed the Catholic Church most aptly calls Transubstantiation; let him be anathema.

CANON III.-If any one denieth, that, in the venerable sacrament of the Eucharist, the whole Christ is contained under each species, and under every part of each species, when separated; let him be anathema.

CANON IV.-If any one saith, that, after the consecration is completed, the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ are not in the admirable sacrament of the Eucharist, but (are there) only during the use, whilst it is being taken, and not either before or after; and that, in the hosts, or consecrated particles, which are reserved or which remain after communion, the true Body of the Lord remaineth not; let him be anathema.

CANON V.-If any one saith, either that the principal fruit of the most holy Eucharist is the remission of sins, or, that other effects do not result therefrom; let him be anathema.

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ANON VI.-If any one saith, that, in the holy sacrament of the Eucharist, Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, is not to be adored with the worship, even external of latria; and is, consequently, neither to be venerated with a special festive solemnity, nor to be solemnly borne about in processions, according to the laudable and universal rite and custom of holy church; or, is not to be proposed publicly to the people to be adored, and that the adorers thereof are idolators; let him be anathema.

CANON VII.-If any one saith, that it is not lawful for the sacred Eucharist to be reserved in the sacrarium, but that, immediately after consecration, it must necessarily be distributed amongst those present; or, that it is not lawful that it be carried with honour to the sick; let him be anathema.

CANON VIII.-lf any one saith, that Christ, given in the Eucharist, is eaten spiritually only, and not also sacramentally and really; let him be anathema.

CANON IX.-If any one denieth, that all and each of Christ's faithful of both sexes are bound, when they have attained to years of discretion, to communicate every year, at least at Easter, in accordance with the precept of holy Mother Church; let him be anathema.

CANON X.-If any one saith, that it is not lawful for the celebrating priest to communicate himself; let him be anathema.

 

CANON XI.-lf any one saith, that faith alone is a sufficient preparation for receiving the sacrament of the most holy Eucharist; let him be anathema. And for fear lest so great a sacrament may be received unworthily, and so unto death and condemnation, this holy Synod ordains and declares, that sacramental confession, when a confessor may be had, is of necessity to be made beforehand, by those whose conscience is burthened with mortal sin, how contrite even soever they may think themselves. But if any one shall presume to teach, preach, or obstinately to assert, or even in public disputation to defend the contrary, he shall be thereupon excommunicated.